Tama Potaka frustrates me. Somewhere beneath that Tory suit bears the heart of a genuine human being, I feel it in my bones. But I really have to dig through his discourse to hear snatches of it.

I can almost hear its rhythm in the first half of this conversation with Mihi Forbes, which starts out with a flyover of the political and cultural landscape of Aotearoa in 2026, and how it's affecting iwi Māori.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/mata-with-mihingarangi-forbes?share=dad0f475-8b65-4a9f-bf2e-a37e80978ca9

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